{"id":3664,"date":"2022-06-20T12:26:31","date_gmt":"2022-06-20T11:26:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.armanami.org\/blog\/?p=3664"},"modified":"2022-06-22T14:01:30","modified_gmt":"2022-06-22T13:01:30","slug":"ce-fel-de-populatie-sunt-aromanii-geneticianul-mihai-netea-la-contributors-ro","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.armanami.org\/blog\/ce-fel-de-populatie-sunt-aromanii-geneticianul-mihai-netea-la-contributors-ro\/","title":{"rendered":"Ce fel de popula\u021bie sunt arom\u00e2nii?\u00a0\u00a0Mihai Netea\u00a0la Contributors.ro"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Extras din interviul acordat de cercetatorul \u00een genetica Mihai Netea, autorul cartii&nbsp;<em>O istorie genetica (incompleta) a rom\u00e2nilo<\/em>r lui Lucian Popescu : 20.06.2022.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Contributors.ro: Au existat multe controverse privind originea arom\u00e2nilor. \u0218i da\u021bi \u00een carte c\u00e2teva repere cu ceva s-a descoperit p\u00e2n\u0103 acum privind originea arom\u00e2nilor. Ce fel de popula\u021bie sunt arom\u00e2nii?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Mihai Netea:<\/strong>&nbsp;Eu lucrez \u00een genetic\u0103 \u0219i imunologie, deci colegii istorici \u0219tiu mult mai multe dec\u00e2t mine, deci dac\u0103 fac gre\u0219eli sper ca d\u00e2n\u0219ii s\u0103 m\u0103 ierte. \u00cen orice caz din c\u00e2te am citit \u0219i am discutat cu colegii, din punct de vedere genetic, \u00eenc\u0103 o dat\u0103, la fel ca toate popula\u021biile balcanice, popula\u021bia arom\u00e2n\u0103 este foarte \u00eenrudit\u0103 cu celelalte. Au fost c\u00e2teva studii foarte bine f\u0103cute de colegii din Spania, care au studiat popula\u021biile arom\u00e2ne, \u00eempreun\u0103 cu popula\u021biile din jur care, bine\u00een\u021beles, \u0219i-au dat acordul \u0219i nu au reu\u0219it s\u0103 le deosebeasc\u0103 de popula\u021biile din jurul lor. La fel cum nici noi nu ne putem deosebi de celalalte popula\u021bii. Din punct de vedere genetic nu putem face niciun fel de ipotez\u0103 cum c\u0103 arom\u00e2nii ar fi rom\u00e2ni pleca\u021bi \u00een ultimele secole sau c\u0103 au fost o popula\u021bie vorbitoare de limba latin\u0103 care migreaz\u0103 \u00een sud. Dac\u0103 m\u0103 \u00eentreba\u021bi pe mine, eu cred c\u0103 \u00een momentul \u00een care Imperiul Roman ocup\u0103 Dacia \u0219i avem provinciile Imperiului Roman la sud \u0219i la nord de Dun\u0103re, nu trebuie s\u0103 ne uit\u0103m la Dun\u0103rea de acum 2000 de ani ca la Dun\u0103rea de acum. Con\u0219tiin\u021ba na\u021bional\u0103 rom\u00e2n\u0103 vede Dun\u0103rea ca grani\u021ba rom\u00e2nismului, grani\u021ba latinit\u0103\u021bii de unde pornesc Bulgaria, Serbia care sunt \u021b\u0103ri slave. \u00cen momentul \u00een care s-a format poporul roman, primii pa\u0219i \u00een sinteza daco-roman\u0103, dacii sunt \u0219i ei o popula\u021bie vorbitoare de limb\u0103 indo-european\u0103 care ajung pe teritoriul Rom\u00e2niei abia \u00een epoca bronzului, deci ei formeaz\u0103 celelalte 20% din structura genetic\u0103 a poporului rom\u00e2n, ei sunt o ramur\u0103 a tracilor, \u0219i tracii, \u00eempreun\u0103 cu dacii, bine\u00een\u021beles, tr\u0103iesc pe ambele maluri ale Dun\u0103rii. P\u0103rerea mea personal\u0103 este c\u0103 primii pa\u0219i ai form\u0103rii limbii rom\u00e2ne s-au f\u0103cut pe ambele maluri ale Dun\u0103rii. \u0218i Dun\u0103rea reprezenta mai mult o coloan\u0103 vertebral\u0103 dec\u00e2t o grani\u021b\u0103 \u00een acest proces. Acest proces de contopire, de formare a limbii rom\u00e2ne pas cu pas din latina vorbit\u0103, a fost \u00eentrerupt, cred eu, de marile migra\u021bii, care \u00eencep \u00een sec. V, VI, \u00eent\u00e2i vin hunii, dup\u0103 aceea vin go\u021bii, \u0219i apoi vin slavii. Hunii \u0219i go\u021bii au o influen\u021b\u0103 extrem de efemer\u0103 asupra popula\u021biilor autohtone, dar marea migra\u021bie slav\u0103 care \u00eencepe cu sec. VI, VII \u0219i se continu\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 prin secolul X are o influen\u021b\u0103 extrem de important\u0103 asupra sudului Europei. Fiindc\u0103 slavizeaz\u0103 o parte important\u0103 a Peninsulei Balcanice. Eu cred c\u0103 popula\u021biile slave, care numeric sunt mult mai importante dec\u00e2t celelalte popula\u021bii venite anterior \u0219i care au un impact sc\u0103zut asupra popula\u021biilor autohtone, ele la un moment dat intr\u0103 inclusiv pe teritoriul Rom\u00e2niei, are loc o important\u0103 influen\u021b\u0103 asupra popula\u021biei daco-romane, nu putem vorbi de limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 c\u00e2nd anumite influen\u021be slave nu sunt integrate \u00een popula\u021bia daco-roman\u0103, \u0219i cred c\u0103 \u00een acel moment a existat o important\u0103 component\u0103 de presiune demografic\u0103 asupra popula\u021biilor vorbitoare de limbi romanice din sudul Dun\u0103rii. \u00cen special c\u00e2nd slavii sunt urma\u021bi de cumani, probabil c\u0103 inclusiv influen\u021ba slavilor asupra rom\u00e2nilor ar fi fost mult mai mare dac\u0103 nu ar fi existat migra\u021bia cuman\u0103 care vine c\u00e2teva secole mai t\u00e2rziu \u0219i care \u00eempinge o parte a popula\u021biei slave spre sudul Dun\u0103rii. \u0218i p\u0103rerea mea este c\u0103, cel pu\u021bin a\u0219a cred, dar, \u00eenc\u0103 o dat\u0103, sper c\u0103 m\u0103 iart\u0103 colegii istorici care \u0219tiu mai bine dec\u00e2t mine, p\u0103rerea mea este c\u0103 migra\u021bia slav\u0103 masiv\u0103 care are loc spre teritoriile din sudul Dun\u0103rii \u0219i formeaz\u0103, Serbia, Bulgaria \u0219amd mai t\u00e2rziu, \u00eempinge popula\u021biile romanice care tr\u0103iau \u00een direct contact cu ceea ce va deveni poporul roman \u00een nordul Dun\u0103rii \u0219i le \u00eemping \u00een nordul Greciei, \u00een mun\u021bii Epirului. La fel cum mun\u021bii Carpa\u021bi au fost o component\u0103 extrem de important\u0103 pentru supravie\u021buirea cultural\u0103 \u0219i lingvistic\u0103 a popula\u021biei rom\u00e2ne\u0219ti, care de c\u00e2te ori a fost \u00eempins\u0103 s-a retras spre munte, c\u00e2nd veneau marile migra\u021bii, ca apoi, c\u00e2nd lucrurile se a\u0219ezau s\u0103 migreze \u00eenapoi spre c\u00e2mpie. Dar eu cred c\u0103 arom\u00e2nii au fost cu noi \u00eempreun\u0103 \u00een primele faze ale form\u0103rii poporului roman \u0219i apoi au fost \u00eempin\u0219i de migra\u021biile ulterioare din evul mediu timpuriu spre nordul Greciei.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Textul complet : https:\/\/www.contributors.ro\/din-punct-de-vedere-genetic-daci-suntem-cam-20-50-din-genele-noastre-apartin-populatiei-venita-aici-in-neolitic-interviu-cu-cercetatorul-mihai-netea\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Extras din interviul acordat de cercetatorul \u00een genetica Mihai Netea, autorul cartii&nbsp;O istorie genetica (incompleta) a rom\u00e2nilor lui Lucian Popescu : 20.06.2022.&nbsp; Contributors.ro: Au existat multe controverse privind originea arom\u00e2nilor. \u0218i da\u021bi \u00een carte c\u00e2teva repere cu ceva s-a descoperit p\u00e2n\u0103 acum privind originea arom\u00e2nilor. 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