{"id":1354,"date":"2018-10-03T15:40:23","date_gmt":"2018-10-03T14:40:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.armanami.org\/blog\/?p=1354"},"modified":"2018-10-03T16:18:11","modified_gmt":"2018-10-03T15:18:11","slug":"1354-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.armanami.org\/blog\/1354-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Exista o limba macidoneasca? o discutie pe FB cu ocazia Zilei limbii rom\u00e2ne"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Arom\u00e2nii din Albania au s\u0103rb\u0103torit Ziua Limbii Rom\u00e2ne la Corcea&#8221; (5 sept. 18) o informatie InfoPrut (http:\/\/www.armanami.org\/blog\/ce-se-intampla-peste-capetele-armanilor-revelatorul-curceaua-07-09-2018\/comentata ziua urmatoare pe un forum arm\u00e2n de pe FB:<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Maria Pariza<\/strong> :\u00a0CURIOS!!! MI SE P\u0102REA NORMAL CA ORGANIZA\u021aIILE MACEDO-ROM\u00c2NE DIN ROM\u00c2NIA S\u0102 PARTICIPE LA UN ASTFEL DE EVENIMENT, TOT NORMAL TE \u00ceNTREBI: CE SE \u00ceNT\u00c2MPL\u0102 PESTE CAPETELE AROM\u00c2NILOR??? OARE SUNT REVENDIC\u0102RI \u00ceN CRUCI\u0218 CU MOLDOVENII &#8211; LA CORCEA???<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"260\">6 septembre 08:06<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><strong>Nicolas Trifon :<\/strong> \u00cenca odata avem de a face cu o tentativa a statului rom\u00e2n (sucursala \u00ab rom\u00e2nii de pretutindeni \u00bb de la Ministerul de externe) si a unei agenturi parastatale specializate \u00een supralicitari nationaliste \u00een profitul proprilor ei promotori (Institutul &#8216;Eudoxiu Hurmuzachi&#8217; pentru Rom\u00e2nii de Pretutindeni) de a justifica existenta lor fac\u00e2nd parada peste hotare acolo unde se prezinta cea mai mica oportunitate. Pentru un asemenea spectacol efemer si nu prea costisitor (o gustare la \u00ab grand hotel \u00bb dupa amiaza + o prestatie folclorica) nu e neaparata nevoie de asociatii arom\u00e2ne reprezentative. O marunta structura asociativa care n-ar exista nici sub forma de proiect fara subventii din partea ambasadei rom\u00e2ne poate foarte bine juca acest rol. Bine\u00eenteles, nu ai cum sa te astepti la un raspuns convingator la \u00eentrebarea care se pune \u00een aceste conditii : De ce statul rom\u00e2n prefera sa creeze la fata locului si sa \u00eentretina o mica clientela docila \u00een tari ca Albania sau Macedonia (cu Grecia ar fi prea complicat) care sa \u00eentretina iluzia existentei unei minoritati rom\u00e2ne \u00een loc sa ajute pe arom\u00e2ni (rr\u00e2m\u00e2ni, arm\u00e2ni) sa-si ia destinul \u00een m\u00e2ini, sa-si \u00eentretina memoria lor istorica, sa-si cultive obiceiurile si limba, ceea ce nu e de loc usor \u00een zilele noastre pentru o populatie rasp\u00e2ndita si \u00een numar restr\u00e2ns\u2026 Faptul ca aceasta limba se \u00eenrudeste de aproape cu rom\u00e2na justifica oare o asemenea tentativa grosolana de rom\u00e2nizare a albanezilor arom\u00e2nofoni si a descendentilor lor ? Grotescul situatiei rezulta de altfel din faptul ca pentru a \u00eentelege pe deplin \u00ab caracterul unitar al limbii, culturii \u0219i civiliza\u021biei rom\u00e2ne\u0219ti \u00bb arom\u00e2nii de la Korc\u00eb (Curceaua) invitati la agapa organizata de Rom\u00e2nia ar fi trebuit mai \u00eent\u00e2i sa urmeze cursuri de limba rom\u00e2na\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mihai Iorganda<\/strong> : Nu stiu ce interese ascund aceste manifestari(banuiesc) doar.Cand este vorba de noi,nu intereseaza pe nimeni.<\/p>\n<p>Pe cand o sesiune dedicata limbii noastre macidonesti,de la bunici si strabunici?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Marius Ciorica<\/strong> :\u00a0exista o limba macidoneasca ?????????????????<\/p>\n<p>Iorganda<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vasile Cotabita<\/strong> : Limba al papu shi ali mumi,tzi u.nvitzam di cilimeani,cum s.acljiama?Macedoneasca dzac mini.<\/p>\n<p>Cafi cum va ashe ii dzati. Gramusteanii iidzac armaneasca, farsherotii dit grecia ii dzac rramaneasca&#8230; nu stiu cum ii dzate ma shtiu ti iasti: limba di dada!!!<\/p>\n<p>iorganda<\/p>\n<p>Sarut mana,multumesc.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vasile Cotabita<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Exista o limba pe care, vorbitorii sai, o pot numi cum vor ei. E interzis undeva? Sau o denumim doar cum vor ceilalti, nevorbitorii ei?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pariza<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MUL\u021aUMIM <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/nicolas.trifon\">Nicolas Trifon<\/a> pentru c\u0103 te intereseaz\u0103 percep\u021biile arom\u00e2nilor mai pu\u021bin aviza\u021bi \u00een acest context balcanic. \u0219i pentru deschiderea ta spre comunicare. M\u0103 \u00eentreb dac\u0103 misterio\u0219ii de la Corcea \u0219tiu \u0219i arm\u00e2ne\u0219te. Noi arm\u00e2nii avem o carte important\u0103. Suntem r\u0103sp\u00e2ndi\u021bi, dar suntem pu\u021bini , aproape \u00eenrudi\u021bi \u0219i \u00eencuscri\u021bi peste spa\u021biu, ne cunoa\u0219tem p\u00e2n\u0103 la a 7-a spi\u021b\u0103 cum se spune, direct sau idirect, Chiar dac\u0103 ne ciond\u0103nim \u00eentre noi, o facem mai mult pe criterii de vedetism, Istoria ne-a \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat s\u0103 fim suspicio\u0219i c\u00e2nd al\u021bii din afar\u0103 se bag\u0103 prea mult \u00een destinul nostru. E bine s\u0103 cunoa\u0219tem c\u00e2t mai multe p\u0103reri.Problema \u00een acest caz a ponit de la faptul c\u0103 am o deformare intelectual\u0103, \u00eeso\u021bit\u0103 de pasiune s\u0103 \u00eenregistrez .tot ce se scrie legat de arom\u00e2ni.\u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 vrei deduci ni\u0219te lucruri. De exemplu, aceast\u0103 organiza\u021bie destinat\u0103 pentru Moldova confisc\u0103 multe dintre proiectel \u00een care , \u00een mod normal trebuie derulate de SCMR ca structur\u0103 -suport a statului pentru politic\u0103 extern\u0103. N-am auzit s\u0103 fie implicat vreun arom\u00e2n la acest Institut Eudoxiu Hurmuzachi. \u00cen schimb la SCMR se lipesc \u0219i rom\u00e2ni care cred ei c\u0103 suplines lipsa de energii arom\u00e2ne devotate rom\u00e2nismului. Fals. Dac\u0103 asociez acestea \u0219i cu MULTE ALTE discursuri \u0219i manifest\u0103ri \u0219i cu reac\u021bii ale fra\u021bilor din Balcani \u0219i cu cele spuse de tine -deduc cu m\u00e2hnire c\u0103 dreg\u0103torii de azi din Rom\u00e2nia nu au nevoie de rom\u00e2nismul arom\u00e2nilor, \u0219tiu c\u0103 exist\u0103, au nevoie de antiarm\u00e2nismul lor, De ce ??? O fi o nou\u0103 voca\u021bie patriotic\u0103??? Nu o percep la rom\u00e2nii normali. Dar se percepe tot mai clar la grupule\u021be?? Zici c\u0103 nu e costisitor??? Naivitate! Poate \u00een fapte&#8230;dar pe h\u00e2rtie&#8230;cine \u0219tie&#8230;! Chiar m-a\u0219 mira s\u0103 fac\u0103 astfel de eforturi , sigur falimentare, doar patriotice\u0219te.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Arom\u00e2nii din Albania au s\u0103rb\u0103torit Ziua Limbii Rom\u00e2ne la Corcea&#8221; (5 sept. 18) o informatie InfoPrut (http:\/\/www.armanami.org\/blog\/ce-se-intampla-peste-capetele-armanilor-revelatorul-curceaua-07-09-2018\/comentata ziua urmatoare pe un forum arm\u00e2n de pe FB:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1354","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-habari-news"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Exista o limba macidoneasca? 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